aren't they going to put the CBDC on blockchain? if they are not, it is a signal that they intend for it to be monkeyed with, to enable future manipulations
Agreed. I am always amazed that the rich politicians like Sunak are happy to trade in their tangible wealth for digital currency which can be turned off with the flick of a switch.
The Spectator Australia weekend e-mail mentioned digital currencies. I was gratified to see that a full 16% of the UK population has no smartphone (assuming the newspaper's information is correct, of course). I refuse to get a smartphone myself.
I don't have a smart phone. Last time I topped up (pay as you go dinosaur here) I received a message saying my phone needed to be updated for 5G! No way of doing that on my phone thankfully, but it got me to thinking at what point will they start enforcing it and how they will twist my arm to comply. I need my phone for lots of things like verification of accounts etc.
this also happened to a friend who was using an old Nokia phone. she was literally getting harassed about it. she did some digging on her own and found out they were totally bullshitting her. she ended up switching her service to Consumer Cellular (which seems to cater to us older folks) and is happy with their service.
my mom is using Consumer Cellular (she's 85 and has a flip phone). its all she needs; she still has a limited minutes plan. my friend has a smart phone and definitely uses everything (email, apps, etc), way more than I do. (Spotify is literally the only app I bother with - I refuse to do anything related to money. I won't even use maps). Both are happy with Consumer Cellular.
I'm a fellow pay as you go dinosaur. I thankfully have got no messages saying I need to update to 5G. My phone is still using 3G. The more of us who don't have smartphones, the harder it will be to force them on people. P.S. Your Substack looks like great fun.
I've never needed one and still don't. I don't live in the stone age, either. I travel internationally, etc. I only began using computers in 2013, for education. ;purposes.
I don't want to come across as black pilled, but there is no stopping it. When your property taxes, income taxes, insurance, debt, all these shackles that have been place on us demand that we pay with CBDCs, we will be forced to use them, however there are those of us that will become adept in bartering and the black market that will develop. I've been self employed most of my life and already do many of the things that CAF and Dr Mercola mentioned. I live by cash, keep my cash at home, just put money on a debit card for online purchases and most importantly out of debt. I live on a small farm with gardens, chickens, rabbits and cattle, I'm able to raise most of my food, I already barter my services for hay and am in the position to do more. Now would be a good time for everyone to develop a barterable skill set. We can break this totalitarian grip by coming together and helping each other, this evil that's enveloping the planet cannot stand against "Loving thy neighbor as thyself"
Knowledge! I'm sure you have tons of knowledge about many things that you may not realize could be more valuable than you imagine. Stay strong! We need you.
"The crisis now unfolding, however, is entirely different to the 1970s in one crucial respect… The 1970s crisis was largely artificial. When all is said and done, the oil shock was nothing more than the emerging OPEC cartel asserting its newfound leverage following the peak of continental US oil production. There was no shortage of oil any more than the three-day-week had been caused by coal shortages. What they did, perhaps, give us a glimpse of was what might happen in the event that our economies depleted our fossil fuel reserves before we had found a more versatile and energy-dense alternative. . . . That system has been on the life-support of quantitative easing and near zero interest rates ever since. Indeed, so perilous a state has the system been in since 2008, it was essential that the people who claim to be our leaders avoid doing anything so foolish as to lockdown the economy or launch an undeclared economic war on one of the world’s biggest commodity exporters . . .
And this is why the crisis we are beginning to experience will make the 1970s look like a golden age of peace and tranquility. . . . The sad reality though, is that our leaders – at least within the western empire – have bought into a vision of the future which cannot work without some new and yet-to-be-discovered high-density energy source (which rules out all of the so-called green technologies whose main purpose is to concentrate relatively weak and diffuse energy sources). . . . Even as we struggle to reimagine the 1970s in an attempt to understand the current situation, the only people on Earth today who can even begin to imagine the economic and social horrors that await western populations are the survivors of the 1980s famine in Ethiopia, the hyperinflation in 1990s Zimbabwe, or, ironically, the Russians who survived the collapse of the Soviet Union." ?
The US is busy exporting its remaining energy reserves, while half its population seem to think the country is sitting on a lake of oil. Yes, economic collapse would seem to pose a problem for CBDCs.
All excellent advice Joel - thank you - CAF knows the score. We are deep in rural SW England, going off-grid and local - on the way now - using cash is just a start: https://globalwalkout.com/keepcashalive/
My son and I , the youngest of six spread over twenty four years, were riding with others one day in Hawaii. The driver made small talk by asking "how we were doing in the economic downturn".
We were hitch hiking, mind you. "Well, " I replied, as my 13 yr. old looked on quizzically, "from where we are, there's no down to turn to. "
When I related this episode in real life to a friend later, they said to me "Poverty is economic security."
Beans are a commodity, like gold and silver, they come from nature. Money is an invention, an abstract that exists in law. Supposed to.
It was never wise to monetize mediums of exchange with high intrinsic value(commodities).
I probably could be clearer what I mean by "real money". See above links to learn. There are more and more people figuring out the true nature of money. Much progress over the last decade. Most people though, think they understand money, its' nature, but they do not.
I call "real money", Organic Sovereign money. Others have their names. When you understand what real money is, then you can try to imagine the great changes it will necessarily cause....for the better. First grasp the true nature and history of what we call money. There is really no issue more important for humanity to fix.
I am still confused as to whether decentralised block chain digital currencies represent a viable alternative to centralised CBDCs. The 10 points mentioned by CAF to prevent the implementation of CBDCs do not specifically recommend using Bitcoin or any of the other decentralised digital currencies. The advice is also aimed at US residents. My intuition tells me that we should be setting up a tangible, real alternative to central bank currencies right NOW, consisting of a market place where you can trade (barter) tangible goods in exchange for other tangible goods or CASH ONLY. People should be defaulting to using this instead of resorting to the big online retailers, which we all know are so alluringly convenient, but are leading us down the pathway into slavery. So who's for setting up Barter Town online?
I just wanted to say it was great to meet you on Thursday evening. I talked to you briefly just before the meeting and thanked for every thing you have done regarding covid.
Tiny glimmer of hope in the incoming digital nightmare. Hackers!
They for sure can & will get into any system anywhere on earth. Then watch the digital implosion.
The irony if they can hack CDBCs but not proper blockchains?!
'they' (spooks) can hack anything and are pretty much listening to EVERYTHING anyway.
aren't they going to put the CBDC on blockchain? if they are not, it is a signal that they intend for it to be monkeyed with, to enable future manipulations
Agreed. I am always amazed that the rich politicians like Sunak are happy to trade in their tangible wealth for digital currency which can be turned off with the flick of a switch.
I'm sure the politicians and rich people will NOT be taking part in the CBDCs. If they do at all, it will be a minute portion of their funds.
a couple of the most famous 'hacking' cases were back doors in the code, left deliberately ajar
The Spectator Australia weekend e-mail mentioned digital currencies. I was gratified to see that a full 16% of the UK population has no smartphone (assuming the newspaper's information is correct, of course). I refuse to get a smartphone myself.
I don't have a smart phone. Last time I topped up (pay as you go dinosaur here) I received a message saying my phone needed to be updated for 5G! No way of doing that on my phone thankfully, but it got me to thinking at what point will they start enforcing it and how they will twist my arm to comply. I need my phone for lots of things like verification of accounts etc.
this also happened to a friend who was using an old Nokia phone. she was literally getting harassed about it. she did some digging on her own and found out they were totally bullshitting her. she ended up switching her service to Consumer Cellular (which seems to cater to us older folks) and is happy with their service.
Thanks for the note about Consumer...I wasn't sure about them but they sent a paper about it by snail mail. :-} Interesting.
I heard good things from a relative, now deceased, several years ago. I wondered if they were a good company.
my mom is using Consumer Cellular (she's 85 and has a flip phone). its all she needs; she still has a limited minutes plan. my friend has a smart phone and definitely uses everything (email, apps, etc), way more than I do. (Spotify is literally the only app I bother with - I refuse to do anything related to money. I won't even use maps). Both are happy with Consumer Cellular.
Thank-you for that update!
I'm a fellow pay as you go dinosaur. I thankfully have got no messages saying I need to update to 5G. My phone is still using 3G. The more of us who don't have smartphones, the harder it will be to force them on people. P.S. Your Substack looks like great fun.
We're such a minority but we're fierce! Thanks re substack. It's a little light relief, I hope.
Indeed to both points.
I've never needed one and still don't. I don't live in the stone age, either. I travel internationally, etc. I only began using computers in 2013, for education. ;purposes.
Same here, and have not had a TV for over 20 years either.
I don't want to come across as black pilled, but there is no stopping it. When your property taxes, income taxes, insurance, debt, all these shackles that have been place on us demand that we pay with CBDCs, we will be forced to use them, however there are those of us that will become adept in bartering and the black market that will develop. I've been self employed most of my life and already do many of the things that CAF and Dr Mercola mentioned. I live by cash, keep my cash at home, just put money on a debit card for online purchases and most importantly out of debt. I live on a small farm with gardens, chickens, rabbits and cattle, I'm able to raise most of my food, I already barter my services for hay and am in the position to do more. Now would be a good time for everyone to develop a barterable skill set. We can break this totalitarian grip by coming together and helping each other, this evil that's enveloping the planet cannot stand against "Loving thy neighbor as thyself"
DS, I recommend to all a watch of the following recent videos of Jordan Peterson:
he labels the global elite at the end of his manifesto: “you worshippers of Gaia” '
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--QS_UyW2SY
on a recent Joe Rogan broadcast, 15 minutes of clarity of purpose. Resistance is what is called for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_cjujecPsE
Love it!
What type of skills for barter do you suggest for an old female. (Not that!)
Knowledge! I'm sure you have tons of knowledge about many things that you may not realize could be more valuable than you imagine. Stay strong! We need you.
Thanks, Sandy K, for those words of encouragement.
Digital currencies 'need' electricity.
No BAU?
"The crisis now unfolding, however, is entirely different to the 1970s in one crucial respect… The 1970s crisis was largely artificial. When all is said and done, the oil shock was nothing more than the emerging OPEC cartel asserting its newfound leverage following the peak of continental US oil production. There was no shortage of oil any more than the three-day-week had been caused by coal shortages. What they did, perhaps, give us a glimpse of was what might happen in the event that our economies depleted our fossil fuel reserves before we had found a more versatile and energy-dense alternative. . . . That system has been on the life-support of quantitative easing and near zero interest rates ever since. Indeed, so perilous a state has the system been in since 2008, it was essential that the people who claim to be our leaders avoid doing anything so foolish as to lockdown the economy or launch an undeclared economic war on one of the world’s biggest commodity exporters . . .
And this is why the crisis we are beginning to experience will make the 1970s look like a golden age of peace and tranquility. . . . The sad reality though, is that our leaders – at least within the western empire – have bought into a vision of the future which cannot work without some new and yet-to-be-discovered high-density energy source (which rules out all of the so-called green technologies whose main purpose is to concentrate relatively weak and diffuse energy sources). . . . Even as we struggle to reimagine the 1970s in an attempt to understand the current situation, the only people on Earth today who can even begin to imagine the economic and social horrors that await western populations are the survivors of the 1980s famine in Ethiopia, the hyperinflation in 1990s Zimbabwe, or, ironically, the Russians who survived the collapse of the Soviet Union." ?
https://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2022/07/01/bigger-than-you-can-imagine/
The US is busy exporting its remaining energy reserves, while half its population seem to think the country is sitting on a lake of oil. Yes, economic collapse would seem to pose a problem for CBDCs.
Wow ~ thanks for the link.
They have already shown what they are capable and willing to do...
...Canada used to be a free country
Will Castreau confiscate the bank accounts of everyone who subscribes to Jess?
All excellent advice Joel - thank you - CAF knows the score. We are deep in rural SW England, going off-grid and local - on the way now - using cash is just a start: https://globalwalkout.com/keepcashalive/
Hopefully we can offer a guiding light to those emerging out of their dark dystopian future: https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/the-financial-jigsaw-part-2-localisation?s=w
I use cash as much as possible.
My son and I , the youngest of six spread over twenty four years, were riding with others one day in Hawaii. The driver made small talk by asking "how we were doing in the economic downturn".
We were hitch hiking, mind you. "Well, " I replied, as my 13 yr. old looked on quizzically, "from where we are, there's no down to turn to. "
When I related this episode in real life to a friend later, they said to me "Poverty is economic security."
The only truly free people are the homeless.
And "Davos bro's" are so affraid of the cyber attacks and warning us about cyber pandemic, so they have to digitalize everything.
The irony is dead.
Please watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIodNOYXumc
Please read "The Lost Science of Money" and "Real Honest Money".
Go here to educate yourselves:
https://monetary.org
https://www.monetaryalliance.org/#who-we-are
https://internationalmoneyreform.org/
Understanding what real money is and creating it is the only real solution.
"real"...."money'...???? beans are real. I can eat them. MOney is a power and control nexus. Money doesn't grow beans, and you cain't eat it.
Beans are a commodity, like gold and silver, they come from nature. Money is an invention, an abstract that exists in law. Supposed to.
It was never wise to monetize mediums of exchange with high intrinsic value(commodities).
I probably could be clearer what I mean by "real money". See above links to learn. There are more and more people figuring out the true nature of money. Much progress over the last decade. Most people though, think they understand money, its' nature, but they do not.
Here are examples I just sourced: https://sovereignmoney.site/
https://positivemoney.org/
I call "real money", Organic Sovereign money. Others have their names. When you understand what real money is, then you can try to imagine the great changes it will necessarily cause....for the better. First grasp the true nature and history of what we call money. There is really no issue more important for humanity to fix.
I like Fitts, but I can't see how the introduction of CBDC can be prevented. It would take several miracles:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/how-could-you-save-america-in-2022
I am still confused as to whether decentralised block chain digital currencies represent a viable alternative to centralised CBDCs. The 10 points mentioned by CAF to prevent the implementation of CBDCs do not specifically recommend using Bitcoin or any of the other decentralised digital currencies. The advice is also aimed at US residents. My intuition tells me that we should be setting up a tangible, real alternative to central bank currencies right NOW, consisting of a market place where you can trade (barter) tangible goods in exchange for other tangible goods or CASH ONLY. People should be defaulting to using this instead of resorting to the big online retailers, which we all know are so alluringly convenient, but are leading us down the pathway into slavery. So who's for setting up Barter Town online?
People are working hard on it.
Dr.Rose have you seen this and what are your thoughts ? Puerto Rican member of parliament.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/puqTKQuTyT8t/
'''as our elders and loved ones were exterminated in hospitals''
Also free A5 flyer for distribution on CBDC -
https://globalfreedom.substack.com/p/digital-id-flyer
Thanks for the tips, Ms Fitts most honorable.
I just wanted to say it was great to meet you on Thursday evening. I talked to you briefly just before the meeting and thanked for every thing you have done regarding covid.